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Cloud Native at Docka?
The people who were buying container platforms at docker, the stuff that once you get to running absent production, they were still the same people that you sold v m or two. I'd say what's interesting is, like banks, they tend to be quite forward in some of the technology that they use. But for many of those folks, a lot of it just has to run on prim and some of it is a function of industry. We have too much choice now, craig, it goes in any direction.