The Relationship Between Discomfort and Wholeness

Krista Tippett: Cross generational conversation with thinkers and writers Parker Palmer and Courtney Martin. They were at the 2014 pop tech conference in Camden, Maine with the theme of rebellion. There's a phrase of Thomas Martin in everything there is a hidden wholeness that you both have reflected on in your writing. And I wonder if you just talk a little bit about what you think that has to say to 21st century people. Well I think it's an act of rebellion to be a whole person right. The act of persisting in those fundamental beliefs that something better is possible.