The impact of empire has far-reaching implications for the church, the nation, and the world. Even Christians who would claim that the kingdom of heaven is the only true ultimate rule and reign can find themselves complicit in supporting and furthering the empires of our current age.

Former presidential candidate Mark Charles wanted to show a different way forward, using the political process to speak truth to power. In this thought-provoking episode, host Kaitlyn Schiess speaks with Charles about lessons learned from his political run and the ways in which trauma has had a particular impact on the white majority in this country.

With a focus on healing historical trauma and rethinking the two-party system, Charles shares a compelling vision for a more inclusive and just future. His perspectives on political reform and communal trauma are not to be missed.

Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how history shapes modern politics and explore ways to contribute to a more just and equitable society.

This episode highlights the following themes:

• The influence of historical trauma on contemporary politics
• The damaging effects of the two-party system on American society
• Confronting and dismantling systemic white supremacist ideologies

Links from this episode:

• Get to know more about Mark Charles
• Check out his book co-authored with Soong-Chan Rah, Unsettling Truths
• Check out Rachel MacNair’s book, Perpetration-Induced Traumatic Stress

For its fifth season, hosted by Kaitlyn Schiess, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, "What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?" Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities. 

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