How Many MFA Programmes Did You Apply To?

This week on Magic Lessons, Elizabeth Gilbert talks with Cecilia, a young poet in Florida. Cecilia fell in love with poetry in college and applied to a dozen MFA programs. She got rejected from every one. Devastated by the rejection she fell into great despair and wondered if she could still call herself a poet when these MFA programs deemed her talents insufficient. For extra guidance Liz brings in her friend, the poet and storyteller Mark Nepo, who has soulful advice for Cecilia. And later we hear from Cecilia about what she's been up to since her first magic lesson.

Special Guest: Mark Nepo is a poet, teacher, storyteller and the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller The Book of Awakening. His most recent books include The One Life We’re Given: Finding the Wisdom that Waits in your Heart (Atria, July 2016), and Inside the Miracle: Enduring Suffering, Approaching Wholeness (Sounds True), selected by Spirituality & Health Magazine as one of the top ten best books of 2015. Find out more about him at MarkNepo.com

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