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Kubernetes Competence Center
When I joined Audi, they already created a proprietary Kubernetes control plane. And focusing on deploying into EC2 directly or on then when EKS came out on the first abstraction layer on EKS. So from there on, we went and we focused onKubernetes and that's what I told you before. We consult platforms that will be created and we allocate platforms in the right layer because some business platforms focus too much on the infrastructure layer.