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423: Celeste Headlee | How to Have Conversations That Matter
The Jordan Harbinger Show
I'm a Three Under the Bus Here, Jason
I'm a three under the bus here, jason. I know that this is cliche, but a lot of folks hire escorts and things like that to do that. And i honestly, jason brought up a good point. You can have these meaningless exchanges, even if you're just talking about how cold it is. So what you think of as small talk is not small at all.
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