I think its, it's both conscious and unconscious. Some of it happens unconsciously. Every founder thinks about blocking out investors from my competition. So i actually believe all this probably happened in some wayd do you view that as like a good business? And just like a strategic move or is there something more malicious a behind it? In your mind? I would say that it is more of a just a reality that exists then an ethica or onethical thing, or a good or a bad thing. But they made, they're very intentional to get all the kind of tiron silkand valley investors in even for small checks. Red point, general catalist, all the really important ones

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