325: ‘The Negative Version of Icing on the Cake’, With Nilay Patel
The Talk Show With John Gruber
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Creeberhang and Neli review the new iPhone 5. Creeberhang: This is the phone the 12 should have been in. The five g performance of this phone appears to me better than the 12 where i live, which is a really hard thing to talk about. It's interesting to me to keep talking about it. I'm curious what what you think. Over all, i think, i they're great phones.
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