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Lisa Erickson talks about the Art and Science of Meditation

A Productive Conversation

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Meditation as an Escape From Tramadol, Right?

"I would still be very a hesitant about saying, oh, that's the answer," she says. "If it is actually sort of magnifying dissociative tendencies in the long run, it doesn't actually lead to so to that complecate at and so to that." She adds: "To me, whenever i meditate, you you're getting closer to some of the stuff that really, frankly, matters"

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