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Dorian abbott is a je physicist at the university of chicago. He was meant to give a public lecture on climate change it and then the campaign to cancel him began. Whether or not his beliefs are right, they are widely held in the american population. Only 24 % believe they should also take race and anisity into account order to increase diversity.

Francis Fukuyama, one of the most important living political scientists, is a senior fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute. His writing spans from the origins of society in earliest prehistory to the rise of modern democracy and the identity wars of the 21st century. His new book, Liberalism and Its Discontents, a defense of the values of free societies, is scheduled for release in April 2022.

In this week’s conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Yascha Mounk discuss how neoliberalism has gone awry, the excesses of individualism on both the right and the left, and how to rejuvenate liberalism.

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