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Apple's Virtual Reality Distortion Field, with Mark Gurman

What Future with Joshua Topolsky

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How to Make VR Socially Acceptable

On the outside of the, these will be basically look like ski goggles, right? Right. And so there's cameras inside of the, there's some kind of camera inside of the goggles that are tracking your eye movements. The other thing they've done from a technology standpoint, it is a VR headset, but they've shoehorned AR into there as a very core component of it because you have these dozen external cameras. You can dial it to by degrees in and out.

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Speaker 1
Yes,
Speaker 2
but I think one of the most fundamental aspects from early on in development was how you make VR socially acceptable and how you take people in VR without removing them from the real world. And there's a few tricks they have up their sleeve on that. One is this external display that they've been working on from the very beginning for the headset, where it's essentially you can see you have this front OLED display and you see the person's eyes who's wearing it. And so like, right, sort of like they're there, not there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1
mean, this sounds insane, right? Like just hearing you describe that you're saying that on the outside of the, these will be basically look like ski goggles, right? Right. This device is something like that. You're saying on the outside surface of it, is it covering the whole surface of the outside? The screen, you know, the screen? A
Speaker 2
portion of it. Yeah. Where your eyes would be. And you can, you know, you're moving your eyes and you can, you know,
Speaker 1
you're blinking. And so there's cameras inside of the, there's some kind of camera inside of the goggles that are tracking your eye movements. Yeah, eye tracking. Right. And so then it's showing people on the outside. So do they think that you'd be walking around in public wearing this headset? There
Speaker 2
was a demo internally, and not only that, that you would wear it to a party, which I think is ridiculous. But I mean,
Speaker 1
this is the thing, like think about a bunch of people at a party wearing these things on their face and try to imagine a desire
Speaker 2
there. I would leave now I'm kidding. Right. No, you
Speaker 1
probably would. I mean, if you didn't have one, you certainly would leave. Right. That's the point. Right. I
Speaker 2
don't know. They're going to, they're going to try to make this socially acceptable. The other thing they've done from a technology standpoint, it is a, it's a VR headset, but they've shoehorned AR into there as a very core component of it because you have these dozen external cameras. And you have the crown on the Apple watch, you have a bigger version of that on the headset. Right. So
Speaker 1
it's like the headphones. I have the big Apple, they have that big crown on them to adjust volume and stuff. Right. So it's like going between VR and AR mode.
Speaker 2
Right. And so you are seeing, right? Oh,
Speaker 1
you can dial it. You can dial it to by degrees in and out. Oh, is that the idea? I don't know. I was described to me as on or off. Oh, really? Okay, because I was thinking like, actually, it's a cool idea. If you could go like, I want like 60%, you know, virtual reality and 40%, you know, real or whatever. I don't know. Just that I don't know. That actually would make sense. I mean, it's a dial. It's just my thought. Yeah.

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