Even some analists have told me they thought that by this point it might be too late, because they're running on bu potential bottom. It seems like it's almost, when you're looking at the data, we'd have to be much closer to those recessionary type fears and by that point, once they do start cutting them, then the markets could potentially rebound. But again, lik to your point, carol, that is your job to dreearch, especially find you had a lonnis aadmancha,. well, jess, i know you've written a lot about the notion of capitulation in the stock marketand how to recognize it. When will investors

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