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Chris Walker, CEO, Refine Labs

The Dave Gerhardt Show

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Are More People Coming to Our Eyes Than Before?

"There's never going to be some perfect way. If you're trying to get in front of enterprise accounts, right? Come up with your own way that you're going to measure," he says. "I would like to see more people be able to articulate the strategy and talk about, here's why we're going to do this."

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