We’re joined by Dr. Dale Johnson, Associate Professor of Biblical Counseling at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and Executive Director of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors. Dr. Johnson is passionate about teaching and informing people about biblical counseling, especially pastors. Dr. Johnson is burdened for pastors to see the church function in a way that cares for souls. In these roles, he is able to do just that by both “catching” and training pastors before they go out in ministry or after they’ve been in ministry and realize that they need more training.