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Vern Harner: What's the fastest way to get the most profitable, productive results with the team? If you had to do this all over again. So start another company and do it right this time. One of the key things with EOS is that they cannot give advice. They just kind of guide you through the tools. There's value in that, but there's also a drawback. Sometimes if we don't have the capability, if we haven't been through something, and it's like, oh, follow the tool, figure it out.
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