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Us Against The World w/ KellyAnne Judd

MTV's Official Challenge Podcast

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The Importance of Spiraling

"I wasn't spiraling all the time. I was not even a little bit," he says. "If you would have her being, if she would have had to say my name and like you asked me like, when I've been okay with it." He adds that his friends who hadn't already hurt him in any way could have handled their situation differently.

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