"There's no possible way you can literally put your feet up and think unless you, unless you detach," he says. "When you understand the natural human bias is not to do those things, sometimes pushing to the default aggressive is actually where you have to go to get them to get away from the natural state, which is to do nothing." 'The power curve' in an aircraft is a place literally it's a curve that they draw based on like factors like thrust and lift are if you get behind the power curve, it requires more power than you have,' she adds.