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341. Secret Scientists & Real Conspiracies — John Lisle on Stanley Lovell, the OSS precursor to the CIA, and the Masterminds of World War II Secret Warfare

The Michael Shermer Show

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Sally Kohn's new book is a dual biography of Stanley level and Sidney Gottlieb. She wanted to compare their programs during World War II and the Cold War. But as she researched, "this is getting a little bit longer" And it just made more sense to kind of split it off into two books.

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