Introduction

In this episode I go on Dr. Steven Phillipsen to talk about magical thinking and thought action fusion. In this Steven goes back to the start and explains what is OCD, what's going on in the brain. And then he starts to explain how magical thinking exists generally in society. ER peer exposures for magical thinking, we go into full action fusion and then Steven gets some words of hope and much much more. Hopefully you'll find this useful if you deal with magical thinking.