If you weren't doing this for a living, what would be your second career choice and why? That's a good question. I think John Alsop said that he would want to open up some legit American barbecue restaurants in Australia. And then they're able to actually apply this stuff to saving the reefs or building back the reefs in the ocean. But I think I would probably like to like to focus on growing corals and doing some neat things in terms of, I don't know, plumbing.