I think that the prison system and I mean that to encompass a federal, state and local facilities. People don't like prison labor that quote competes with non-prison labor but of course we all compete with each other. So it's a weird thing to me. But then you have this idea that of training it seemed like a good idea to train prisoners to be able to do something when they get out so they don't become criminals again. There's a lot of political tension there, right? Oh absolutely.

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