How Long Does It Really Take?

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"I think a lot of it have to do with designing a less rigid planning process," says Gwyneth Paltrow. "You don't estimate how much, like, time tey're ging to take", she adds. At one point there were no quarters, no road maps, no mission, nothing structurally in place - and i would say that was certainly the biggest challenge for us." The company is now valued at more than $20 billion (£16billion) by investors including Google's co-founder Sergey Brin.

Erik Bernhardsson joins us on the podcast to chat about building engineering teams and the delicate balance between innovation and productivity as organizations grow.

Erik has been scaling engineering teams for years. In its early days, he managed the analytics and machine learning teams at Spotify. Next, he grew Better's engineering team from 0 to 300, where he was CTO until the beginning of 2021. Erik is now working on a yet-to-be-named project that will bring exciting new tools to data teams.

In this episode, we also shared our views on team mentalities, skunkworks projects, and more as we tried to answer the question: "what is success in engineering?"

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Developing Leadership is a podcast presented by Athenian. We are introducing the world of engineering to metrics and data that improve processes and help teams. If you want to learn more about data-enabled engineering, go to athenian.co