Introduction | 2min snip from Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Hello and welcome
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to Outrage and Optimism. I'm Paul Dickinson and today we bring you the second and final episode in our series Lifelines vs Deadlines, looking at the need for science-based policy to help us deliver net zero by 2050. Last week we explored some of the good, the bad and the downright dark side of government action on climate policy or should I say inaction. This week we'll go beyond the politics. We'll speak to industry and city leaders, lawyers and youth activists on the need for collective support around regulatory lifelines if we're to meet the deadlines climate science is set for us. Thanks
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for being here.
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Now I'm delighted to be joined by Fiona Macklin as my co-host for this episode and see you actually coined the term Lifelines vs Deadlines. What's the story behind that?
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Well Paul, hello and firstly thank you so much for having me on this podcast. It's an absolute honour. I had the privilege of managing the Race to Zero campaign with the UN High Double Climate Champions team for just over two years and I was really energised by quite a few things but in particular the exponential uptake in the number of non-state actors, so the businesses, the cities, the regions, the financial institutions committing to net zero over the last couple of years. I mean the campaign literally grew tenfold between 2020 and 2022 and that's fantastic but what I was also aware of was the intensity of the scrutiny on these commitments and there's a lot of criticism around, a lot of strong focus on accountability and of course all that is critically important to help drive us towards delivering the deadlines that we need but I think we also risk falling into a bit of a trap of overwhelming ourselves with increasingly urgent deadlines rather than promoting the tools, the lifelines that we need to achieve. What we know are scientific limits, not just targets.

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