I love the way you put that about having a picture where you're going, but being willing to let go of it. And I guess in terms of the question, well, Eva was talking about process and the need for process to be good between people. And that's really what we're focused on now is creating assemblies, which can have really good process. That for me is the route to Scotland that is regenerative rather than one that is not. So we are working towards this notion of assemblies locally in place and then building towards the kind of people's assembly is the picture. But as you say, who knows what will happen, but that's the picture.

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