We Need Extraordinary Measures, but It's Not North Korea, Right?

i think the things that people propose as the sticks aren't even big enough sticks when it comes to motorating them towards the pathway. It's hard for a true democrat, you know, in he small d to say, ok, we've got t engaged to these authoritarian systems. But what i'm saying is, you got to engage em and use sort of bigger sticks than have been mentioned.