In our near-dystopian society, progress is measured by power. Dominance over nature, animals, and fellow humans has become synonymous with development. But is humanity's desire to ascend necessarily evil?

In this episode, the great philosopher Charles Eisenstein joins me for a paradigm-shifting conversation. We immerse into the most daunting social and spiritual crises we face today and discuss why acquiring more power, money, wealth, and control isn't the way out. Also, we go into the power of narratives in influencing culture, how to redefine progress to honor our oneness with nature, the true purpose of wealth, and what it means to live a genuinely good life.

Charles Eisenstein is an intellectual, teacher, public speaker, and author of numerous essays and books, including "Sacred Economics," "Climate—A New Story," and "The More Beautiful World our Hearts Know is Possible."