I think that a lot of my friends, and also my students, who are people of color, view the traditional route of start ups as the rout of life. So for me, i had an experience with my first company where we went through an accelerator programme and had the experience of raising from some investors. We raised like three hundred thousand dollars. That was mainly because i was so uninterested in that gameho with investors. The more i say no to like, i don't going to hold off, i don't really know what we have yet in this new company with investors, the more they're interested. Ra, but the i definitely felt somewhat unwelcome andor a little bit uncomfortable