Puddin has laid out this narrative now for several years is that he says, the far right forces in ukraine are being fostered and supported by the us. And i guess anton, fundamentally, what's so strange about this is that it's russia, of course, who's the aggressort. Its russia doing the bombing of ukranian cities. But does he say anton where the threat is coming from? I mean, who are these notsies? So he doesn't actually say it in that speech in 20 21. He didn't even really need to explain the whole subtext. We know it so well by now.

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