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#404 - The Fall of the House of Tucker and Traffic w/ Ben Smith

The Fifth Column

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The New York Times and the Internet

Ben Smith: I don't think it's like a media company issue, right? Like I mean- Yeah, yeah. If there were these massive social justice districts in the streets and there was this huge pandemic and Donald Trump was president,. It was a pretty stressful part of their lives. He says he thinks that people pushed back on trans coverage but didn't realize they were getting pushed back from those above them. "I do think one of the things that happened here is that the New York Times won"

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