Yes, because people are looking for you to report you to and is

your legs still bad at this point? I know. So

you know, when I left North Korea, put the is the plastic is my leg. And then I put the is the some is a shoelace in here. And after wearing the shoes and then showing the put there. So across the river, I didn't took out my shoes. I just said, you know, it is worth November. I is almost this presence. So when you in in water, just your body is just preaching. But I never care. I never care. If I didn't cross the this border, I didn't met myself. Just only thought by my son. And you know, when I cross the border and walk in mountain areas, I never sat down. I knew that is if I sat down, then I couldn't stand up. So was it painful? It's pain. It's still pain. Yeah. And did the traffickers know you're in this? No. Were you hiding it from? I hide everything. Oh, do you think they wouldn't have accepted you? Yeah, because if I told him he not allowed me. Okay, I see. So I everything is a hide. Everything is hide. So then, you know, the we arrived in the near, although it's another Chinese local house. So this this is long, this is the part ways. So we have to that is on the taxi. So you know, the time as a taxi driver to usually spy. So it's a later time is poor, different people is on the taxi. So taxi drivers ask those a lot of questions. So they can't speak English, speak Chinese. So

I only spoke Chinese. And is that because you learned from your previous experience?

Yeah. So I spoke to him. Is that is my husband? And the young lady is my sister, but she's mute. And that is my father. But they both growing up in Korean disability and they do this lack of education. So they can't speak Chinese. But that's true is many Chinese Korean people speak Chinese, not where? Then he asked me, but why your speaker Chinese is really well? So I said, I graduated high school. And then he said that it's late times. Why all families move to the familiar? And then, you know, I just just show to him just on it here. You know, I worked in mountains and the snake is a bite me. So now we went to the hospital. So he saw my leg. So that time is a stock purpose. So then, oh, I

quickly,

this is a drive. Wow, that's fast thinking. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So then we arrived at Chinese Prokle house. But after North Korean Prokle is angry to me, because I had a lot of communications with the taxi driver, because he knew that is a Chinese system. Then I explained everything that and after they laughing, laughing. And I sat down and then I just said, everything is a foot that.

And everyone is shocking. So you revealed to the group? They sold my

leg. Why did you hide? How did you walk? But you know, when I sat down and then I didn't stand up. I didn't stand up. And after I told to broker, I had a child in here. I wanted to contact him. But he said, no, you already promised towards human trafficking here. So next morning, I woke up and then the young lady is already gone. Wow. They've already been sold. Yeah, already sold. And then North Korean Prokle told me that I talked about the alright, because if last night on the taxi, you didn't speak Chinese, could be we all now is in prison. But you saved my life. Also, you saved my family life in North Korea. So you just contacted your son. So I got only one number. He's, you know, his grandma, house number. And then I just quickly tired. And I asked my son is in there. So then my son is gone. It's fun. But he did the answer of fun. And I contacted him again. And he of punk. He hung up the phone. Yeah. And the third time I just on phone and son is mom. And he said, mom and cried, cried and then off. So loom is really quiet and everyone is hurt. My son's crying. So that's at the moment. It's really silent. And then his man told me that I didn't, you said, sold human trafficking. You have to go. You have to met yourself because you saved my life. So today's I want to save your life. So I really thank you for this, the traffic calls.

So he believed that your actions in the tax he'd saved his life. Yeah. And because of that, he wanted to save your life. And he released you from the human trafficking contract. And encourage you to find your son. Did you? You know, I wanted

to immediately to met my son. But you know, my condition was really bad. Could be my son was shocking. So you know, I stayed in my mother's relatives house in China. It's two months. And then when I was in the recovery and

after. So you're like healed in that period? Yes. Because it's the

relatives gave to me is, you know, the medicines. And then I went to the disability. I didn't contact to them because I want to I wanted again about the disability. Yeah. I only choose my son. I only need my son. So I just hide everything. And then I went to the disability. So I saw that it's a my son alone in play in outside. So I just said,

kid, wow,

wow. So you went in disguise, you saw your son playing outside and you walked up and you just grabbed him.

Yeah, just grabbed him. But you know, the I was another heartbreaking. My son was look like that's a homeless child. Yeah. They never care about the my son. 30 clothes and the dirty hand. He also kind of managed to choose his hunger always because they didn't give it to him. Another is proper food because they hate me or they hate my son because but he's the grandchild. Yeah. They never care about. Did he recognize

you? Yes. Yeah. And did he want to go with

you? Oh, of course. Yeah. You know that I was it first time it's a heartbreaking. But when I holding him is my arms, that is all about the world is in my arms. That's a happiness moment. I never forget. I never forget.

And the thought standing there with him with that moment, it must have also been frightening because if people had arrived and seen you and recognized you, the farmer, his mother, the people around that reported you before, you had to get out of there quickly again. Yeah. Immediately. I just just

quickly and then I went to the relative's house and watched through him. And I gave to him years. You know that another is his also hunger. But you know that I without to to him, the reason that is China is a better than North Korea. It's a lot of rise. But they never gave to him any proper food. So after that, he died early, died because that is hunger. People when you eat, it's also hard to play a moment. And then I decided to start. I have to leave this country because China is not a safe country if I repatriated North Korea. I never see my son again. Yeah. So

how did you get to the UK?

I never talked about that. I wanted to go to England. I wanted to go South Korea. But our junior was a failed every, you know, the race, you know, we went to the Qingdao. But we didn't enter this South Korean Basi. And the sangha is the same. And then Beijing is the top because it's imprinted embassy is a Chinese Polish in there. And they take the ID card or passport. We had not and then we met tonight North Korean refugees imprinted Beijing embassy. And then we decided to go to Ulambataro. But we didn't know the various the Ulambataro. But everyone is never give up because we had no choice. Stating in China, we could be same back to North Korea or close the border, Ulambataro, we could be success. We just have half face. So we went to the name on go and across the Chinese border is really high pencils, strong pencil. But we close the border. But you know, that I also find out that the Chinese police car came to me. But you know, the other North Koreans are less curious to us. Then we arrived in Ulambat, Mongolia. But we didn't find anybody. And we stayed in desert three

days. But after

a year, yeah, then we had no rice and no water and cold. So my son is supposed to die. So I had no choice. My son could be not died in this desert. So we escaped it close the border again. And in China, we went to the China again. And I stayed in China two years, you know, I selling the Eastern Korean dishes, you know, something that. And then I met this at the American pastor and he sent those United Nations. But I didn't know that that time is a United Nations. What do you mean, it's a United Nations? What do they do? So I talked to that they could be another brokers. Another

brokers. So they could traffic you again? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

So they told me that is a which country do you want to call South Korea, America or in European countries? So South Korea, America, Germany is still dangerous. And we don't, we didn't know that these journeys are success or not. So I chose European countries. The reasons that could be I send back to North Korea, risk is less than South, America. Yes. So I arrived in England. But I knew only England. I never heard the United Kingdom or the England. But after I was really confused, you know, some people told me that welcome to United Kingdom or welcome to Britain. So,

oh, that's broke up. Broccoli is right to me. They never land me in England. Oh, I see. So you thought they just sent you to a different place? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Where

you lived in your life up to that point, the kind of the North Korea and the China and go into places like Desert in New London, Bataa, very kind of rural areas. And what what year did you arrive in England?

I didn't know the much about the England. Yeah. What did you think when you arrived? What did you think? What was your impression of it? Just only the week I only talked about it could be safe my family. Of course. Yeah. Because I only talked about the families first, safe family, safe some places, just only talked about. So England is safe to us. But that is we didn't know. It's safe for us first time because I didn't know any speak English world. So I kind of did everything. And I never heard the refugees or asylum seekers.

Is every every world is on family language for me? Of course. You couldn't speak any English then. But when you arrived in the airport or the first time, which city did you arrive in London? Oh, yeah. Heathrow airport. Yeah. And did it look different? Were you surprised by the city? The smells and?

Oh, that is a different. You know, when I arrived the Heathrow airport, I talked about the England only white people. Yeah. So but airport is different. You know, the I saw

that all world is all

different people in this surprise. Wow. Because in China North Korea, they allowed only day people. They never allowed for it or for us or something. That's but that is the first moment. I saw that. Oh my God, that is different. And then, you know, I found that the news people but say everyone is put that it's been. Oh

my God, it's another shocking issue because in Korea, you weren't allowed to put that you're faking a bit, I guess. Yeah.

Or never never that if you just put the bin, your own family is a public execution or send the political operations. So we never talked about that. Wow. And I know

that you've had a fantastic life since arriving in England. You've been here a long time now. You've had a second child, I

believe. Yeah, I have now three children. Three children.

Wow. And you told me as we were setting up that you'd met the prime minister. Is that correct? Oh, yes. You know, the first

time when I arrived in the UK, I didn't speak any English. So it was really difficult life for first time. But then I started learning my English. The reasons that my children growing up, they go to school. And I wanted to communication with my children. So if I don't know English, it could be I lost my family again. So I really hard times it's still the problems. But learning English, and then I started my human rights activities work. The reasons that is by all the sons asked me that when he was 12. Mommy, why did you abandon me and leave me? But you know, I never abandoned my child. I never leave my child. I loved him. So that's why I survived in prison. But this question is changing my life. The many voiceless people needing my voice, especially my child. So then I started my human rights work and helping many refugees in the UK, because refugees arrived in the UK. They can't speak English. So I just opened the English class and learning to English, helping to take social care, not everything that. And then 2020, when his COVID happened, and then you know, in our home, I always hold that many innocent people died of this virus. So I was really shocking, heartbreaking, because already experienced in North Korea. At that time, I didn't do anything. But in the UK, it's different, different. So I wanted to do something. So first time is I want to donate to PPE to care homes, because the third time is care homes really big, really, you know, the walls, because it's all the people. So I donate to PPE, seven care homes in Manchester, areas. And after they replied to us, the PPE is arrived in my country, and the PPE is helped to us. So this message is changing my second chapter. In the UK, also many boys, less people, and somebody needs our health. Then I stand off with local elections, because it's a local councilor, it's not too much politics. This is kind of community leaders helping the people. So I thought that, okay, I want to leave payback, because when I arrived in the UK, they will come to me, and they helped me lots of that. So I want to leave payback this thanks to my local people. So I stand off local elections, but I wasn't failed. But that's also amazing experience. I never give up my politician life too. And last year, I met the prime minister, and also this year, too, is the prime minister, too, and also the majesty, King Charles, three. You know, my life is every time I change it, and growing off. And also, I've read lots of history book, you know, because I didn't know there is much more history, because North Korea has always limited. So I continued learning my education, improve

my skills.