I have been accuseda the certainly in the early years of this podcast, for fawning over my guests. But i do have to say, you're really beautiful. What enthralled you so much about make up at that time in your life? You know, i'm not sure. I mean, i was not like, a student, so i reading and and studying were not my, a passion in life. So i just always loved, not glamour, i didn't love glamour, but i just loved ways to better yourself.