The spokes council model is still too democrat o mean, its still not, it doesn't it's too horizontal? Yes, still too horizontal, but it was too hierarchical for most, lot of occupiers at the time. Do you that the sort of retrospective assessment of occupyi very much including on the left and among occupy leaders and p participants, t that th that changed a bit?" i don't even think that was the case by midway through the last decade, as as occupied, wall street journal editor michael leviton wrote in the atlantic in 20 15. "It will be an astric in the history books if it gets mentioned at all"