I've seen a lot of cases recently where there was some resistance in various hospital systems, but in the end, only a hundred or 200 people simply refused to get vaccinatedd. What i've seen is that when, when those things have been implemented, they, they have been effective. The same with the military, by the way. Iv never understood the argument in the military, because, you know, if you can order people to battle, and they run the risk of being shot and dying, why you can't order them to be vaccinated? And what will the subtextifand that?
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