According to legend, Sun Tzu was a general or advisor for the King of Wu in the 6th century BC near the start of 300 years of war that ended with the first emperor. The work was embellished for another thousand years and studied not so much for the directions it gave, but for the state of mind it encouraged. It influenced leaders from the American Civil War to Mao's Long March to the latest war in Iraq,. especially the line, all warfare is based on deception. With me to discuss Sun Tzu and the art of war are Artim Barrett, Professor Emeritus of East Asian History at Suez; Hilde de Viet, Professor of Chinese History at Leiden University

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