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"My relationship with Barbie was absolutely love, absolute door. And I've never stopped loving her," she says. "I think she was my first piece of sentimental garbage because I just, I totally adored her." Her parents were comfortable in middle class and had a very healthy approach to toys; Barbies were for Christmas or birthdays. She remembers the first time she ever used the Internet as an eight-year-old: 'It was beautiful'
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