work yes so so that's how i got started it paying attention to politics as well so yeah um many many such cases um right so so if you ever get an update on that i'm very interested i'm always interested in like what are the what are the kind of DC adjacent people because it's very different you know like the kind of um DC adjacent silicon valley person who's kind of like friends with um say Tyler Cowan right it's a Tyler Cowan audience is very different from like the Curtis Yarvan audience right you can imagine you can imagine but like both of those are kind of like tech and politics intersection people right um so it's always it's always interesting especially like to me it's very interesting the kind of personality type that that crosses the barrier and how it varies between different people

yeah yeah yeah i mean the um honestly i think the the Yarvan people are not going to be big fans of me because those people think a lot about political fights and culture wars i think that

yeah like i i don't know people who listen okay people who listen to this podcast you know the like the people who listen to this podcast are used to this by now you know you'll you'll have like yeah you'll have people who who just like explicitly hate each other i think i had like someone who is four but like near open borders if not open borders right next to like a Trump official um who is very much against that right i i think that like i i set this up to the point where like everyone who's listening to this podcast is like a Heidi Koppler at this

point is a Heidi Koppler

is