Symbolic World of Christianity and Bitcoin with Jonathan Pageau (WiM098)
The "What is Money?" Show
Bitcoin, Is Dangerous Because It's So Easy to Steal?
"The big trajectory is disinenovation, disinsetivizing violence and coercion," he says. "It's really hard to steal the money if it's custodied properly." He has started a crupto wallet with his son in an attempt to get some of the currency. 'I think i moved a little bit in terms of the crypto thinking, like, in terms of bitcoin'
Jonathan Pageau joins me for a journey into the philosophical, theological, and existential aspects of civilization and its potential reshaping through Bitcoin.
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Transcript:
OUTLINE
00:00:00 “What is Money?” Intro
00:00:08 What is Meaning?
00:07:17 What is Value?
00:09:28 Are some Value Hierarchies Objectively Better?
00:11:54 Goodness is Fittedness to Purpose
00:13:31 Are Individuals Self-Owned?
00:16:41 Free Will vs. Determinism from the Orthodox Perspective
00:19:13 Incentives are Tools
00:23:55 Humans as the Intermediaries Between Heaven and Earth
00:26:31 Bottom-Up Emergence and Top-Down Emanation
00:29:06 Collective Intelligence Is The Free Market
00:34:34 The Corruption of Money is Propelled by the Pursuit of Power?
00:37:22 Can We Ever Justify Compulsion, Coercion, and Violence?
00:40:51 Does Human Nature Disallow Libertarianism?
00:43:11 Responsibility for The Poor According to Christianity
00:48:56 Does Bitcoin Lead Us Toward “Digital Feudalism”?
00:52:18 Bitcoin as the Disruption of War Mongering?
00:54:11 How Do You Define God?
00:56:37 “Ghut”: The Etymology of The Word: “God”
00:58:25 “Paying Taxes is a Religious Sacrifice”
01:02:07 The Fragility of Modernity
01:06:51 The Coming 2029 Collapse?
01:08:40 “When the Gestapo is in the Streets…”
01:11:22 The Specter of CBDCs
01:16:16 The Power of Hyper-Mobile Capital
01:19:12 The Corrosion of Agent-Arena Relationships
01:22:02 We Have Less Scarcity Than Ever…
01:24:24 NYDIG
01:25:33 Are All Social Institutions Religious in Nature?
01:29:15 Fractals: The Intrinsic Geometry of Nature
01:33:45 The Brutal Reality of Political Power
01:36:54 “Revolution is Inevitable”
01:41:00 Gold as a Tool for Political Power
01:46:40 The Marketplace as a Macrocosmic Reflection of Mind
01:49:30 Zombie Companies and the Lack of Capitalistic Autophagy
01:55:16 The Spirit of Innovation, and Innovation as Power
01:58:49 Humanity, Mimesis, and Love
02:05:55 The Reciprocity Between Creator and Creation
02:13:09 The State as the Systemized Predation of Property
02:16:28 The Economics of Organized Violence
02:24:00 Why Bitcoin is Effectively an Evolution of the Internet
02:29:07 “In a World with Money with Infinite Money, The Finite Money Wins”
02:32:19 The Christian Interpretation of Freedom
02:40:08 The Importance of Honest Weights and Measures
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