As a manager, as an engineering manager, can at tha moment when i actually was i the role that this podcast, this target into riht, then it's like, how can i unblock the team? How can i hire? How can we collaborate? Wellike, what a success looks like for the team?How can iti enable others to be successful with no kind of stream of work for myself? And then, of course, now that i transition toa c o and executive, it's changed again, right, where it's much more about and the over all company house that's successful. What is the division between the two? Da, things like that.

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