In this episode of Crazy Wisdom, Stewart Alsop talks with Paul Spencer about the intersection of AI and astrology, the balance of fate and free will, and how embodiment shapes human experience in time and space. They explore cultural shifts since 2020, the fading influence of institutions, the “patchwork age” of decentralized communities, and the contrasts between solar punk and cyberpunk visions for the future. Paul shares his perspective on America’s evolving role, the symbolism of the Aquarian Age, and why philosophical, creative, and practical adaptability will be essential in the years ahead. You can connect with Paul and explore more of his work and writings at zeitvillemedia.substack.com, or find him as @ZeitvilleMedia on Twitter and You Tube.
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Timestamps
00:00 Stewart Alsop and Paul Spencer open with a discussion on AI and astrology, exploring fate versus free will and how human embodiment shapes the way we move through time and space.
05:00 Paul contrasts the human timeline, marked by death, with AI’s lack of finality, bringing in Brian Johnson’s transhumanism and the need for biological embodiment for true AI utility.
10:00 They explore how labor, trade, food, and procreation anchor human life, connecting these to the philosophical experience of space and time.
15:00 Nietzsche and Bergson’s ideas on life force, music, and tactile philosophy are discussed as alternatives to detached Enlightenment thinking.
20:00 The conversation shifts to social media’s manipulation, institutional decay after 2020, and the absence of an “all clear” moment.
25:00 They reflect on the chaotic zeitgeist, nostalgia for 2021’s openness, and people faking cultural cohesion.
30:00 Paul uses Seinfeld as an example of shared codes, contrasting it with post-woke irony and drifting expectations.
35:00 Pluto in Aquarius and astrological energies frame a shift from heaviness to a delirious cultural mood.
40:00 Emotional UBI and the risks of avoiding emotional work lead into thoughts on America’s patchwork future.
45:00 They explore homesteading, raw milk as a cultural symbol, and the tension between consumerism and alternative visions like solar punk and cyberpunk.
50:00 Paul highlights the need for cross-tribal diplomacy, the reality of the surveillance state, and the Aquarian Age’s promise of decentralized solutions.
Key Insights
- Paul Spencer frames astrology as a way to understand the interplay of fate and free will within the embodied human experience, emphasizing that humans are unique in their awareness of time and mortality, which gives life story and meaning.
- He argues that AI, while useful for shifting perspectives, lacks “skin in the game” because it has no embodiment or death, and therefore cannot fully grasp or participate in the human condition unless integrated into biological or cybernetic systems.
- The conversation contrasts human perception of space and time, drawing from philosophers like Nietzsche and Bergson who sought to return philosophy to the body through music, dance, and tactile experiences, challenging abstract, purely cerebral approaches.
- Post-2020 culture is described as a “patchwork age” without a cohesive zeitgeist, where people often “fake it” through thin veneers of social codes. This shift, combined with Pluto’s move into Aquarius, has replaced the heaviness of previous years with a chaotic, often giddy nihilism.
- America is seen as the primary arena for the patchwork age due to its pioneering, experimental spirit, with regional entrepreneurship and cultural biodiversity offering potential for renewal, even as nostalgia for past unity and imperial confidence lingers.
- Tensions between “solar punk” and “cyberpunk” visions highlight the need for cross-tribal diplomacy—connecting environmentalist, primitivist, and high-tech decentralist communities—because no single approach will be sufficient to navigate accelerating change.
- The Aquarian Age, following the Piscean Age in the procession of the equinoxes, signals a movement from centralized, hypnotic mass programming toward decentralized, engineering-focused solutions, where individuals must focus on building beauty and resilience in their own worlds rather than being consumed by “they” narratives.
