utilitarianism's insight, which sounds benal now, but really was quite a dramatic advancein the eighteenth and nineteenth century is everyone matters equally. And not even just humans mattering equally, but even animals. Jeremy bentham famously said we're asking the wrong question about animals. It's not a question o whether they're as smart as us. The question is whether they can suffer. And their suffering is just as much suffering is our suffering, u and i. So if you take this ideas that the quality of experience certainly matters and is our best common currency, then you get to what i call a deep pragmatist. You are mostly focused on evidence, on trying to figure out

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