I wouldn't put me on too much of a creator pedestal. There's a lot of crews are putting in more and more time, more effort. I tried my hardest. I just was not able to be successful. That was my dream as a kid. I always wanted to own my own business, build something. Getting in, I didn't have a ton of knowledge on the VC space or the startup space. What helped me the most was I had such great mentors throughout the journey where when Guy O'Siri came in as my co-founder,. He really spent time with me. Alexis O'Hanean, who led our series A, spent a ton of time

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