My physical books for my thing growing up as a kid my parents were not around they just they were just not there and So most of what I learned and I actually discovered this therapy and I talked about a lot in therapy Books were sort of almost apparent for me in a metaphorical sense, right? I all the things your parents are supposed to teach you that are supposed to give you As was to help you with I had to learn on my own and I learned mostly through books And so books became the surrogate parent. I didn't have now look at my apartment. What am I surrounded with? Books physical books. Yeah What emotionally do you think that was meeting in me? Trentle something like yes, yeah Dude, so clear as day. Yeah guidance Why do you think I? Worked with guys like Tucker Tim Ferriss Rameet Sethi My as they were effective men when I mean I don't like my dad was always like around in groups. I don't really know him and like He spent most of my childhood like at work I have such a resistance to like tris traditional jobs Because like that to me robbed his presence Hmm. I mean look at what Charlie does he literally teaches people how to not have to go to Look at the cover of my book. Yeah, I'm playing catch with my dad Yeah, so much of what we do as adults dude is solving the traumas that we suffered as kids or just early life It would be like all this out now like no Dude, no, you don't have to start there.