Ilyse Hogue: Why do you think it is that so many people, it seems in society, treat learning as something that has to be difficult? She says there's a lot of pressure and it can start from the family. "If you're an immigrant, that country that you're coming from may have been one that takes your wealth away"
Nick Milo is a YouTuber, blogger, and creator of the Linking Your Thinking Workshop, where he guides people of all different backgrounds to learn how to bring curiosity and joy back into notetaking.
We talk about why Nick transitioned from Evernote to Obsidian, the power of link-based thought and map-making, how students can become more engaged with their learning, and how we can use the concepts of flow and gamification to make real life more enjoyable.