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448: I'm Choosing Optimism

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Is It Getting Smaller?

Mike Downey: I've always been a proponent of smaller phones that I like ever had an SE or a mini. He currently has a 14 pro and he loves this phone, but it's still a big camera. But golly, he would really be interested in a big honkin six X zoom or something like that.downey: If you're going to get the great phone and you don't need one, then you've kind of got no choice.

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