Is It Easier to Hurt Cats or Chickens?

I think cats are way smarter than chickens but that you know does that give one the advantage over the other. Not that we compare people to chickens or cats but not at all. Well, okay, let's say now systems thinking in software, projects, programs, large complex efforts, but someone needs architecture. Right everybody well. That's another challenge is just convincing some organizations that they actually need software architecture. How does that change with systems thinking? So, so, sorry, it's my favorite subject and I think through three, three, five things are all jumping in my head at the same time.