Liberalism is an attempt to help and deal with your religious wars in europe. And i think liberalism is very important at softening the impact of religion in those contects. But for me, there is aversion of liberalism. I it isn't anti-religious, fit doesn't deny the prime rule that religion has in the lives of many people. It actually flows from recognition of its importance. The best we can do is precisely to give people a set of liberal freedoms. These people can't run a country. They have enough problems on their own. We don't need to be mixing the chocolate and the peanut butter here. That's not going to be good. A christian
Elizabeth Bruenig is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a Catholic socialist who writes on topics as varied as capital punishment and mothering two children while in her twenties. Her work is uniquely marked by her ruby-red Texas upbringing, the elite professional world she now inhabits, and her deep sense of morality, which draws from both Christian theology and left-wing politics.
In a wide-ranging conversation, Elizabeth Bruenig and Yascha Mounk debate the importance of dialogue across moral perspectives, whether wokeness bears any resemblance to theology, and how religious conviction can give rise to an authentically liberal defense of free speech.
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