Kaski: Anthropic seems like a relatively good shepherd in many ways, but the proliferation of shepherds is inherently bad in of itself. The fact that anthropic and OpenAI are working reasonably well and collaborating together does give us hope for the possibility of coordination when it becomes more necessary and more important. And so what do we love for there to be an AI company that I had sufficient confidence in faith in that if I had technical ideas, I could come to them with their ideas? Kaski: There's nobody you would put on that list. But no, I don't I don't see a company, you know, I'm dropping might be the closest,. You

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