A lot of arguments that are made for plants, like cale or whatever plant is the plant as you are, are made as hormetic stressers. Some people believe they're ok, nice. It's debated. I don't think we know how much harmonesis is too much stress for a human and what i've tried to call attention to with my work is the idea that a lot of these plant compounds also do other negative things that no one is really talking about right?

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