Darwin's use of artificial selection pigeon breeding, was superb. I think it's exactly what was required. And then it's just seamless jump from that to say, oke. We don't actually need a pigeon breeder. Survival will do the job forr us. Or differential repogation will do theJob for us. But i did want to get your thoughts on directionality to evolution. You famously, uow wrote about the evolution of evolution, but that's something different than, say, convergent evolution, or is it inevitable? and i know you and i had this little debate years ago about, would extra terrestrial intelligences be something like us, with a

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