203 - Kevin Kelly on Excellent Advice for Living, Playing with AI, and Staying Curious
Humans On The Loop
The Importance of Iterative Learning
"There's a power in changing your being willing to change your mind," says Pwera Ternus. "You are only as young as the last time you changed your mind." The future of art is moving away from answers and toward lifelong learning, he adds.
Pardon the delay, as I’ve been gathering more conversations than I’ve shared. Future Fossils is about to go into the rapids with three amazing back-to-back episodes! The next will be with Jamie Joyce of The Society Library and then it’s Greg Thomas of The Jazz Leadership Project with producer/futurist Stephanie Lepp (formerly The Center for Humane Technology and The Institute for Cultural Evolution).
BUT FIRST!
Our guest for this episode is technologist, best-selling author, and WIRED founder Kevin Kelly, who sits on the board of one of my most-beloved projects, The Long Now Foundation (I wrote a bunch of pieces for their blog that you can find here and presented at their 2020 Ignite Talks here). I had Kevin on in episodes 128 to discuss his thoughts on the evolution of technology and augmented reality in particular, and again in 165 to discuss his book Vanishing Asia and the tensions between the economic opportunity and ecological/cultural erosion of urbanization, but today we’re having a far more grounded conversation about the wisdom he’s accumulated in his 71 years of living — much of which he has generously encapsulated for us in his latest book, Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I’d Known Earlier.
We also meander into banter about cognitive pluralism and the tango with generative AI, with specific references to rants here and here.
Kevin’s a treasure. I’m honored to share this with you.
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